mandalorianjedi said:
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My current vein of thought is this...
Harry's in the Imperial City with little money, no knowledge of where the hell he is and almost no experience in fighting. He's going to need two out of three of those real quick.
Harry's only options at this point are the Thieves Guild and the Arena. Since I can't imagine the peasants opening up to him immediately after his arrival in Cyrodil so I don't see him going into the Thieves Guild just yet.
So that leaves the Arena. After a few days (the Imperial City is going to be much larger in the fic than it is in the game) of wandering he'll find the Arena. Now, I don't see him as an actual competitor, but he could still possibly get a job there of some sort. The point is, he makes some money and perhaps some training in the meantime.
When he has a sizeable amount of cash, he joins a caravan to Chorrol to get him to Weynon Priory. Once there, Jauffre and the other priests of Talos can fill in the basics of his education (i.e. the basics of the written language of Cyrodil, cartography, geography, combat, etc.).
I haven't really decided which factions Harry will join. About the only ones I've fully decided he will join are "The Blades" and "The Order of the Virtuous Blood".
Robo Jesus, excellent idea for Harry's constellation power. I'd have never have thought to look towards Earth's cosmology.
Even if he doesn't join the mage's guild, he'll probablly still learn some of the ES Magic.
Each of the three Unforgivables are unstoppable by magical means, except for maybe transfiguration/conjuration. I think I want to keep them that way.
However, I don't know exactly what Arkay's Blessing is, so if someone could explain that, that would be great.
You know, it would be funny if, following the OTL events in the escape from the sewers where Harry meets back up with the Emperor and his entourage, Harry tells the Blade who survived (after the Emperor's death): "Ok, and how am I going to get there? I wasn't born in these lands. How am I going to eat, be able to stop at the inns, or the shop for supplies in order to fulfill the Emperor's wishes, as poor as I am? I don't have any money. I'm a stranger to these lands, I don't know the local written language, and I have no money on top of that. So, are you going to help make the Emperor's task easier for me to accomplish, or am I on my own?"
That right there might make his task easier, and it might change events up just a bit to get things rolling. Playing on guilt is one thing, but hinting that 'that' very guilt is leading to incompitence? At the very least, I figure the Blade would give Harry info on where he would be able to get help, if not given a small sack of gold, or a note to take to a place where horses are sold (Give this man a horse in order for him to complete his task, and put the bill on the tab of the Blades, signed Blademember "Insert Name Here").
Also, my thinking on why Harry should be 'given' an 'ability' with languages is that the Realm of Mundus is not likely to have developed the English language, or anything even remotely similiar to it, either written or spoken. In order to get around that hurdle, why not use the old myth in the bible that before the Tower of Babel fell, all languages could be understood (or at least understood by the peoples near Babylon). Here, the ability would 're-awaken', it would allow Harry to understand what is being told to him (and he would be understood in turn), and it would give him the ability to 'play dumb' when 'other' languages are being spoken, with Harry still able to understand every word that was said.
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Belgarion213 said:
Its really an interpretation on HOW the Killing curse does its stuff. If the Killing curse is as often theoriesed a spell that will destroy or remove the soul on contact, and that way being unblockable, then Arkay's Blesswing WOULD stop it (though it still might work on Harry).
Arkay's Blessing prevents the souls of men, beastmen, and elves from being used without consent. Arkay's Law prevents those buried with the proper rituals from being raised to serve.
EDIT: Robo Jesus could probably explain it better than me. However its apparent that Arkay's blessing can be gently bent (aka soul gems etc) however still I doubt the Killing curse would be totally unblockable in TES. It SHOULD still be a very scary spell, but not the instant kill on anybody that it is in the HP world.
As for the plan to get Harry working at the arena for a while as a general laborer that might work. Save up some cash etc.
Though really I see a Harry new to Cyrodil having some trouble with the Arena. It is after all a blood sport and they are battles to the death. A Harry newly arrived from his own world in 5-6th year is going to have some problems with that as soon as he realizes whats going on. It might take a while living in this new world for him to get over his squeamishness.
Unless Harry takes over Wizards Crag (I think that's the word) I still think Harry should rise to at least apprentice in the mages guild if for nothing else than cheaper prices on magical items and custom TES enchantments. Granted Harry can enchant some of his own stuff but I'm not sure if HP enchantments are permanent etc.
As for Strength and Stamina training well he can do some of them, at least initially, at that secret hideout in the mountains for the blades. However yeah Harry might at least become a low level member of the Fighters guild if for no other reason than the training equipment.
I think GiantMonkeyMan is right in that the Killing Curse can be discounted as having the effect of 'destroying' the soul. Removing the bindings the soul holds to the body? Maybe. Banishing the Soul to the afterlife? Perhaps.
We know that the Killing Curse normally does no 'apparent' damage to the body of its victim (barring the odd events that led to Voldemort's body being destroyed), so it is likely that it either destroys/removes the 'life/lifeforce' inherent in the body, and/or removes-the-bindings/banishes-the-soul (on top of the other effect).
If the Killing Curse in this story does its work by destroying or removing the lifeforce of a person, Arkay's Blessing is likely going to do nothing to protect them. If the Killing Curse removes the bindings to a soul and/or banishes it to the Afterlife, Arkay's Blessing is likely to hold a great deal of protection against this unforgivable (if not stopping it outright). If the Killing Curse does both things, I.E. removes/destroys the lifeforce and removes-the-bindings/banishes-the-soul, Arkay's Blessing would negate the effects the curse would have on the soul, but the person would still die due to their lifeforce being gone from their body.
So only in one case would Arkay's Blessing outright stop the Killing Curse.
The Imperius and the Cruciatus to my thinking are likely to be the most feared of the Unforgivable Spells though, and if those spells ever become public knowledge in
any way, Harry becomes VERY valuable to a LARGE number of groups and organizations for a variety of reasons.
As for Harry making money, due to the nature of how HP magic works, if he can work out the spellwork for permanently 'weightless' bags, or sacks with 'unlimited' storage space in them (in order to create the equivilant of the D&D
Bag Of Holding), artifacts such as those are likely to become 'very' valuable, and would attract the attention of a lot of groups, from the various guilds to entrepreneur-ish nobles.
Here, Harry just needs to be a little creative and imaginative with his spells, as he really doesn't need OMGWTF type power in order to make some money or attract the right (or wrong) sort of attention(s).