Sailor Moon Nanoha as Serenity: Take Two!

Shiakou

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#76
Hayate is the Master of the Tome of the Night Sky, which is a prestigious title so long as the book is functional and fully-intact, but reality-warping healing magic and root-level access to the Book's code by way of being Al Hazard's heirs makes that more feasible than in canon. But hold that thought, because I've got something similar.

I noted a few posts back that there's nothing stopping Fate from being a genuine Sailor Earth since she's got Earth's sailor crystal and she's female. But there's also nothing stopping Nanoha from being that character if we pull a little switcheroo.

Picture this: Nanoha transforms to fight her first youma and does a custom variation on Usagi's old introduction (after blasting the youma away from Naru or whoever, but still). When she starts to introduce herself though, she has to stop and think up a name for herself. Usagi just kind of jumped straight to Sailor Moon if memory serves, so here's a little hint that something's not right.

Nanoha doesn't need purification attacks for most of the series because she's fighting the generals rather than possession victims. For this reason, nobody ever notices that she doesn't actually have purification attacks, just beamspam and her family sword techniques. When the crew finally get around to looking for the Silver Crystal, Nanoha doesn't have it. Fate does. Because Fate is Princess Serenity and Nanoha is Endymion.
Okay, that's interesting, especially if Nanoha and the others viewed Fate as an enemy (a sympathetic one, but still) at first. So in this scenario, Endymion (Nanoha) gathered the Inners to fight off the Generals and Serenity (Fate) shows up to unwittingly screw up both sides. Nanoha sympathizes with Fate but still thinks Fate is doing something wrong (which she is, by order of Precia). Then it turns out Fate is Serenity and Fate has to make a decision to jump ship or stay with her mother.

This one has potential for heavy drama particularly because Precia is the only person Fate is more devoted to in canon than Nanoha. By the season one finale, even after everything Precia said, even after all of Nanoha's kindness and the TSAB's leniency, Fate was still willing to side with Precia one last time if Precia had only acknowledged her.

Nanoha is the reincarnation of Endymion? I could get behind that. Although you would have to explain how Fate is the reincarnation of Princess Serenity. She wasn't created anywhere in the Solar System, nor was Alicia born there. I hate to say it, but Fate'll be kind of useless in the long run. Well, maybe not useless, but she definitely won't be in the league of any Senshi.
Reincarnated souls don't hang around in real time; their usually sent on to their new lives with no consciousness of the intervening time or distance. Suggestion: Precia sets up a base on Earth earlier than canon, and Fate is created on Earth (as a clone with Alicia's memories, Fate is actually chronologically much younger than how she appears).

That's easy. Fate (as in destiny, not the girl) plays a certain role in the events of the series, particularly how all the Senshi conveniently happen to meet again in their present life, how Usagi stumbles into every Dark Kingdom plot in the anime, and how the villains always come and attack Tokyo rather than some other city. I think that's what Queen Serenity tapped into in order to make sure all the Senshi reincarnated within a certain distance of each other. Endymion and Serenity were reincarnated into Usagi and Mamoru because U&M were meant to meet and fall for each other on some level. Fate and Nanoha have the same thing going for them; Nanoha is the most suitable host for Endymion's star seed and Fate is both very well-suited for Serenity's SS and she's predestined to meet Nanoha by way of the jewel seed incident. If that means sending the princess's soul outside of the current universe, well that's okay, it'll be coming right back in a few thousand years and it's not like QS wasn't already folding spacetime into a pretzel with that wish anyways.
Gah, predestination. I hate predestination. I prefer to think that people who fell in love once can fall in love again any number of times. In other words, I'd prefer it if Nanoha and Fate fall in love because they're Nanoha and Fate, not because it's "destiny".

The only exception to this is CLAMP's version where "destiny" is more like "the way things are supposed to be", but it's possible to circumvent it if you can put up with the consequences.

It sounds like a contrived excuse so you can have your precious NanoFate.
Be nice. There's nothing wrong with NanoFate but there's such a thing as "too much of a good thing" (not to mention the NanoFate writers using plots which were cliched when Shakespeare was still writing, which is sad because I always like RosalindxCelia). I have to say though, if "destiny" is the cause that Nanoha and Fate fall in love, then it's also the cause for Precia's horrible treatment of Fate. . . and everything else that happens. That kinda sucks.

What about Ach Scheisse? That isn't NanoFate.
The one with FatexAdolf? Uh, no thanks. You should have sent them back when he was still an art student and then they would have taken over the world in WWI (yes, World War ONE) to establish Hayate's Kingdom. No Nazis, and the Aces get to wear the pointy helmets.

Weren't you one of the people who went on a rant when an author suggested writing Yuunoha on SB once?
BUUUUUUURRRRNNN!!!! . . . But seriously guys, can't we play nice this time around?
 

Comartemis

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#77
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Comartemis said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Weren't you one of the people who went on a rant when an author suggested writing Yuunoha on SB once?
I don't recall ever doing anything of the sort, though I've had my share of stupid arguments and it's perfectly possible I'm forgetting one. Either way, I was on AnimeSuki when the NanoFate shipping wars were in full swing so I know how irritating die-hard shippers are; whatever my other failings may be I don't make a habit of getting my panties in a twist over pairings.
Then who was it that had a full-on conniption fit on SB when I wrote Ach Scheisse, or when the possibility of Nanoha and Fate being paired with people other than each other was broached in the early Battle Fantasia threads?
You'd have to quote the relevant discussion from BF at me. I remember a civil discussion about the Sayaka/Kyouko pairing (which was reasonable, since Sayaka is straight by all appearances and at the bare minimum would need time to get over that douchebag she's hung up on) but not a NanoFate argument. As I recall my stance was to leave off on the shipping of those two for the time being because they were preteens during the part of the story we were working on.

As for Ach Scheiss, that had more to do with you shipping Fate with Hitler than shipping her with "someone besides Nanoha". Also, I was a more immature individual back then; these days I can dismiss your work as a stupid trollfic instead of getting pissy about it.

You mean like if the person who directed the reincarnation casting the spell to ensure that her daughter, her court, and her lover would all be born in the same timeframe and a short distance from each other?

Is that outside of possibility? I don't see it as difficult for Serenity to have looked down at the Earth, spotted one location and directed everyone's soul to go there. It's entirely possible they were all born at the same hospital! Usagi was at the same hospital Mamoru was taken to when her brother was born if I remember correctly (though this was anime/movie so I can't be certain if it follows manga canon or not). People usually have a preference about what hospital they go to, so it's entirely likely Usagi and Mamoru were both born there.
I can accept the idea that Serenity targeted a specific location but after that point there would be no guarantee of the Senshi staying in the same place for 14 years and then happening to meet up at just the right time. I mean it's a stroke of good fortune that Hotaru is alive to be Saturn at all given the whole business with the Death Busters. And this method doesn't work anyways for the purposes of this fic since Arisa is Uranus and she was born in the UK.

You want Nanoha/Fate pairing in this story? Make the characters work for it. Have Fate feel inadequate by being useless on the front lines while Nanoha is starting to feel attracted to Mamoru. You know, things like tension and drama? That way when they finally resolve the issue, it moves the audience (or it should).
That would be one way to do it except Nanoha's not going to be attracted to Mamoru under any circumstances. She and him just don't have the same chemistry that he and Usagi have and Nanoha isn't the sort to start gushing over a knight in shining armor in the first place.

Also, as someone else mentioned, eventually Usagi/Nanoha could create senshi. Since she's actually Sailor Cosmos and not Sailor Moon, she could make a real Sailor Moon.
At this point you're talking about post-series stuff, like beyond Galaxia. Fate being useless for the whole story except in an epilogue or something isn't the way I want this to go.

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp here, but I'm a bit incredulous that you say it's contrived for two reincarnated lovers to find each other... and then you want to do the exact same thing, but even more extreme.
It's because I recognize it as contrived that I'm willing to accept it as part of the setting and take advantage of it for my own purposes. Again, Sailor Moon runs on contrived coincidences, from the Senshi all reincarnating together and just happening to meet up to Usagi just so happening to meet each and every victim-of-the-week that has ever existed right before they get attacked, all sorts of things. Rather than deride it as contrived, I accept the idea that there's some romanticized version of destiny at play here and then I assume that it works even if you're not a main character; Usagi and Mamoru would still meet up in this setting even if neither of them are reincarnated, for instance.

Gah, predestination. I hate predestination. I prefer to think that people who fell in love once can fall in love again any number of times. In other words, I'd prefer it if Nanoha and Fate fall in love because they're Nanoha and Fate, not because it's "destiny".

The only exception to this is CLAMP's version where "destiny" is more like "the way things are supposed to be", but it's possible to circumvent it if you can put up with the consequences.
This is true, normally I don't like the idea that things happen because they were meant to happen and I need to put some more thought into how this is going to work. Luckily, that's why I have you guys as a sounding board.
 

ragnarok1337

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#78
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Comartemis said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Weren't you one of the people who went on a rant when an author suggested writing Yuunoha on SB once?
I don't recall ever doing anything of the sort, though I've had my share of stupid arguments and it's perfectly possible I'm forgetting one. Either way, I was on AnimeSuki when the NanoFate shipping wars were in full swing so I know how irritating die-hard shippers are; whatever my other failings may be I don't make a habit of getting my panties in a twist over pairings.
Then who was it that had a full-on conniption fit on SB when I wrote Ach Scheisse, or when the possibility of Nanoha and Fate being paired with people other than each other was broached in the early Battle Fantasia threads?
Ach Scheisse is an abominable piece of shit and if I had any skills at computer hacking I would delete it from the internet forever. I support other pairings than NanoFate, but that story should be purged.
 
#79
ragnarok1337 said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Comartemis said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Weren't you one of the people who went on a rant when an author suggested writing Yuunoha on SB once?
I don't recall ever doing anything of the sort, though I've had my share of stupid arguments and it's perfectly possible I'm forgetting one. Either way, I was on AnimeSuki when the NanoFate shipping wars were in full swing so I know how irritating die-hard shippers are; whatever my other failings may be I don't make a habit of getting my panties in a twist over pairings.
Then who was it that had a full-on conniption fit on SB when I wrote Ach Scheisse, or when the possibility of Nanoha and Fate being paired with people other than each other was broached in the early Battle Fantasia threads?
Ach Scheisse is an abominable piece of shit and if I had any skills at computer hacking I would delete it from the internet forever. I support other pairings than NanoFate, but that story should be purged.
What about the Vita/Kharn pairing though?
 

ragnarok1337

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#80
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
ragnarok1337 said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Comartemis said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Weren't you one of the people who went on a rant when an author suggested writing Yuunoha on SB once?
I don't recall ever doing anything of the sort, though I've had my share of stupid arguments and it's perfectly possible I'm forgetting one. Either way, I was on AnimeSuki when the NanoFate shipping wars were in full swing so I know how irritating die-hard shippers are; whatever my other failings may be I don't make a habit of getting my panties in a twist over pairings.
Then who was it that had a full-on conniption fit on SB when I wrote Ach Scheisse, or when the possibility of Nanoha and Fate being paired with people other than each other was broached in the early Battle Fantasia threads?
Ach Scheisse is an abominable piece of shit and if I had any skills at computer hacking I would delete it from the internet forever. I support other pairings than NanoFate, but that story should be purged.
What about the Vita/Kharn pairing though?
One of the reasons I think the story should be purged.
 
#81
ragnarok1337 said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
ragnarok1337 said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Comartemis said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Weren't you one of the people who went on a rant when an author suggested writing Yuunoha on SB once?
I don't recall ever doing anything of the sort, though I've had my share of stupid arguments and it's perfectly possible I'm forgetting one. Either way, I was on AnimeSuki when the NanoFate shipping wars were in full swing so I know how irritating die-hard shippers are; whatever my other failings may be I don't make a habit of getting my panties in a twist over pairings.
Then who was it that had a full-on conniption fit on SB when I wrote Ach Scheisse, or when the possibility of Nanoha and Fate being paired with people other than each other was broached in the early Battle Fantasia threads?
Ach Scheisse is an abominable piece of shit and if I had any skills at computer hacking I would delete it from the internet forever. I support other pairings than NanoFate, but that story should be purged.
What about the Vita/Kharn pairing though?
One of the reasons I think the story should be purged.
And Solo Wing Vivio?
 

ragnarok1337

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#82
I've tried to purge the story from my mind. I've partially succeeded, and only remember a few details.
 

Shiakou

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#83
Comartemis said:
That would be one way to do it except Nanoha's not going to be attracted to Mamoru under any circumstances. She and him just don't have the same chemistry that he and Usagi have and Nanoha isn't the sort to start gushing over a knight in shining armor in the first place.
Wut?

Mamoru lost his parents when he was six due to a car crash. This also caused him severe psychological problems and resulted in him subconsciously erasing his own memories of the event. The memories of his previous life bleed over to fill up the void left behind, which results in a literal split personality, especially because both sets of memories are fragmented. His goal in the first arc is to steal the Silver Crystal in the hopes that it will bring back his memories and make him mentally stable. He always shows up when Moon is in trouble not because he's consciously trying to save her and be a hero, but because his own powers brainwash him into showing up when she's in danger; and he has no idea why.

Before the Senshi, he has no close friends because he's a rich, orphan kid with a weird personality and a sarcastic way of talking. After joining the team, he still sometimes he wonders what role he's supposed to play or if he's becoming useless, especially as the other Senshi grow stronger.

He's seldom open about his true self, except towards Moon later on. He tries to put up a strong, mysterious front because he thinks its expected of him, but whenever we see his inner thoughts, he's always a confused bundle of nerves whose torn between being in love, and being terrified because he thinks he cause bad things to happen to other people. When he starts getting nightmares about Moon getting injured due to him, he intentionally acts like a bastard to push her away, despite still being in love with her.

In short, Chiba Mamoru is as broken as Fate Testarossa, with enough emotional and psychological problems to qualify for Evangelion. He should never, EVER, be referred to as a Knight In Shining Armor. If he'd been a girl, he'd fit right in with the cast of Puella Magi.
 
#84
ragnarok1337 said:
I've tried to purge the story from my mind. I've partially succeeded, and only remember a few details.
I'm not sure whether to be sad or amused that my fanfics are apparently that horrifying.
 

Garahs

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#85
Shiakou said:
In short, Chiba Mamoru is as broken as Fate Testarossa, with enough emotional and psychological problems to qualify for Evangelion. He should never, EVER, be referred to as a Knight In Shining Armor. If he'd been a girl, he'd fit right in with the cast of Puella Magi.
So... Mamoru/Nanoha/Fate threesome? :p

Why does that make more sense than it probably should?
 

Shiakou

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#87
Are we taking votes? 'Cause I'm voting for the Lunar Harem.

Canon wise, I've always been partial to Mamoru/Usagi/Rei/Minako. All four of them have shown plausible interest in the others at various times. (By the way, that's Usagi's harem, just to be clear.)
 

ragnarok1337

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#88
I've shipped Nanoha/Suzuka/Alisa, with Nanoha as the center of it all. Then I got Hayate and Vita into the mix. Fate was left out, because I imagine Fate's too shy to initiate anything, and is ignorant of Nanoha's VERY active sex life. So yeah, it could work.
 

Shiakou

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#89
ragnarok1337 said:
Fate was left out, because I imagine Fate's too shy to initiate anything
Ouch. :huh: That sounds so plausible, it isn't even funny.

Come to think of it, I don't think Fate would get into any relationship, romantic or otherwise, unless circumstances or someone else initiates it first. The girl has too many issues to work through, given how easily Jail was able to verbally break her down. Nanoha, Yuuno and Hayate can reach out to other people without a second thought, but Fate always seems to need someone reaching out to her first.
 

Comartemis

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#90
Shiakou said:
Are we taking votes? 'Cause I'm voting for the Lunar Harem.
Again, I'm not competent enough to write a haremfic that doesn't suck like a five dollar whore, otherwise this would be my first choice.

Canon wise, I've always been partial to Mamoru/Usagi/Rei/Minako. All four of them have shown plausible interest in the others at various times. (By the way, that's Usagi's harem, just to be clear.)
Bah, you think too small friend. Usagi's harem is Mamoru plus all the Senshi. Not the Inners, and not even the Solar System Senshi, all of them.
 
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#91
To be fair her harem includes non-senshi. I always saw Usagi/Galaxy as the OTP of sailor moon.
 

Prince Charon

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#92
If Fate isn't with Nanoha, I tend to see her with Yuuno (poor guy doesn't get enough love), or possibly Teana or Signum.

One of my post-StrikerS ideas involves a sort of polyamourous very-close-friends-with-benefits situation among Nanoha and many of her friends - not a harem, no real pairings, just people who love and trust each other getting together in whatever combinations don't feel creepy to anyone having them (so, neither Nanoha, Fate, nor Yuuno ever do anything with Vivio (even when she's old enough), for example, and don't want to be there when someone does). Was inspired by a Fate/Teana fic that I can't recall the name of.

OK, back on topic: I have no problem with the 'Nanoha-is-Endymion, Fate-is-Serenity' idea, because as has been pointed out, something arranged for Usagi and Mamoru to meet, and it probably wasn't Pluto.
 

bissek

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#93
Given that she was created from a passing stray, would Linith be created from an already sentient cat if Fate was a reincarnated Serenity born on Earth?
 

Shiakou

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#94
Prince Charon said:
If Fate isn't with Nanoha, I tend to see her with Yuuno (poor guy doesn't get enough love), or possibly Teana or Signum.

One of my post-StrikerS ideas involves a sort of polyamourous very-close-friends-with-benefits situation among Nanoha and many of her friends - not a harem, no real pairings, just people who love and trust each other getting together in whatever combinations don't feel creepy to anyone having them (so, neither Nanoha, Fate, nor Yuuno ever do anything with Vivio (even when she's old enough), for example, and don't want to be there when someone does).á Was inspired by a Fate/Teana fic that I can't recall the name of.

OK, back on topic: I have no problem with the 'Nanoha-is-Endymion, Fate-is-Serenity' idea, because as has been pointed out, something arranged for Usagi and Mamoru to meet, and it probably wasn't Pluto.
It's Mamoru.

His innate powers are a mix of psychometry, healing, and dreamwalking, all overlayed with a strong connection to the Earth. He can't control it at first, but as long as something is on Earth, Mamoru can eventually find it. And his subconscious/split personality really, really, really wants to meet Usagi.

Remember how Kaname Madoka dreamed of Akemi Homura? Or how Kinimoto Sakura dreamed of each new important character just before they showed up? It's like that, only this time it's a guy, and he has a connection with the Planet that functions a bit like sonar.

I imagine his abilities were a bit more useful early on when he was basically a male Catwoman looking for a priceless jewel.

So, if Endymion!Nanoha has the same powers . . .

She had to be fast and careful. The other mage, the one who called herself Takamachi Nanoha, would show up soon- and her quartet of bodyguards with her. If she hurried, she and Arf could reach the Jewel Seed, seal it, and withdraw before Nanoha arrived.

She didn't want to think of what might happen if Nanoha's other enemies showed up first.

There! About ten kilometers distant, she could feel the Jewel Seed gathering power unto itself. Fate flew faster and-

A burst of green light!

"Fate-chan!"

She cursed the bad luck that had befallen her and wondered if her recently acquired black cat had anything to do with it.

"Teleportation?" She readied Bardiche. "That's a pretty advanced skill for a new mage. But no- the color and feel of it is different, so. . ."

Her eyes wandered to the ferret on Nanoha's shoulder.

". . . That's an extraordinary familiar."

"Fate-chan." Nanoha pleaded. "We don't have to be enemies. Please, let me help-"

"I'm sorry, but we've already had this conversation before." Fate interrupted, despite the longing in her own heart. With Nanoha here already and her allies on the way, Fate's chances of taking the Seed was almost nil. Mother would be disappointed, but it was time to withdraw. "Arf. Back to base.", she said over their telepathic link.

"Good-bye, Nanoha-san." Fate whispered and flew away.

"Fate-chan!" Nanoha cried, but the wind ripped away her words before Fate could hear them.

Hours later, Fate was meandering down the aisles of a grocery. She piled foodstuffs and drinks onto a cart almost automatically, her mind full with strategies and tactics to use against her friendly, or not so friendly, rivals.

Lately it seemed as if whenever Fate found a Jewel Seed, Nanoha would either already be there or get there at the same time. Teleportation was the likely answer, but how was Nanoha finding the Seeds so quickly when it took Fate everything just to discern a general direction.

And then there was the way Nanoha all but ignored the Seeds, preferring instead to evangelize and beg to be her friend. Arf commented that it was almost pathetic how lonely the white mage must be to be that desperate, but Fate disagreed. She knew enough about loneliness to feel anything other than sympathy if it was truly the case.

Fate paid for the groceries with stolen cash (stolen from other criminals, but stolen nonetheless), and exited the grocery towards a secluded alley where she could teleport back to her base (abandoned apartment).

The green light hit her eyes just as she entered the alley and Fate dimly acknowledged that teleporting in secluded alleys must be a common trend.

"Fate-chan!"

Fate did not wait. She lashed out with Bardiche, then used the momentary distraction to run as fast as she could.

"Wait!"

But Nanoha had to be discreet about her magic and Fate was faster anyway.

The blonde mage sighed as she rummaged through the garbage behind a restaurant and thought longingly of the groceries she had abandoned. Nanoha was getting to be a hindrance even outside the Jewel Seed hunts-

She stiffened as the realization hit her. There hadn't been a Jewel Seed nearby when Nanoha had shown up. So how had the other girl found her? She frowned, turning her head to avoid the glare of green light from in front of her.

Green light?

Nanoha stood there, ferret at her shoulder, staring at Fate. Fate, who was currently elbow deep in garbage.

"Fate-chan?"

Fate gave the garbage bin a magically augmented kick and it flew towards the other girl, filth and rotten food flying. Fate was gone by the time Nanoha had stood up again to dust the muck off her clothes.

The blonde mage allowed herself a brief moment of satisfaction, accompanied by a longer burst of guilt, at the memory of Nanoha's face as the garbage had hit her.

"Fate-chan!"

It didn't last.

"Fate-chan!"

She managed to escape by weaving in and out of traffic.

"Fate-chan!"

She mugged another girl for her school uniform, then stood with a book to her face as Nanoha ran past.

"Fate-chan!"

She dove into Tokyo Bay and flew underwater for three minutes before her air gave out.

So it continued for days. The Jewel Seeds were all but forgotten as Fate tried to avoid her new stalker. She had deducted that Nanoha was tracking her down somehow, but how? It did not matter if Fate was using magic at that moment or not.

At least the barrier around her apartment would keep her safe and secret.

Fate gave a small smile to Arf in thanks before the familiar left. Arf had noted Fate's increasing stress and frustration and matched it with increasing worry and concern. This afternoon, the familiar had chosen to do something about it. She had heated water in a large drum outside the apartment, then carried the drum, scalding water and red-hot metal and all, and poured it into a bathtub in a bathroom that Luna had painstakingly cleaned that morning while Fate was out dodging Nanoha.

It was, as far as gestures go, truly touching, and Fate resolved to let Arf and Luna sleep on the bed that night as a reward.

She undressed and stepped into the bathtub.

And there was a flash of green light.

"Fate-chan!"

"OUT!" Fate roared, all patience gone.

Nanoha squeaked and dove for the door.

The ferret moved to follow her but Fate reached out to grasp it by the tail.

I'm sorry, I didn't know you were-

"You're the one teleporting her to wherever I am." Fate said. It was a calm, even statement, not a question.

I, ah, yes?

"So I'm not letting you meet up with her until I'm good and ready."

The ferret's eyes seemed to bug out and he glanced at her, at her naked body, before turning his head so fast she could hear his vertebrae snap. But-

"You can wash my back while you're here."

But-

Fate glared at the ferret. Her gaze spoke of adorable doom.

O-okay.

"Good."

Outside the bathroom, Nanoha fidgeted as she, Arf, and Luna stared woodenly at each other.

"So, can we be friends now?"

Arf remembered Fate's stress, lack of sleep, fear of her mother's anger over her failure, and the general insanity of the past week. Luna remembered the garbage that was their breakfast on too many days, and falling into a tub of hot water.

"Yeah. When Hell freezes over."
 

Jorlem

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#95
In the manga, there does seem to be an implication that there is some destiny-like force at work, which is causing them to reenact the end of the Moon Kingdom, and a possible implication that the Moon Kingdom might not have been the first time either. (Specifically, the talk of repeating cycles when Usagi attempted suicide after apparently killing Mamoru.) However, Luna has a file on Ami before they ever meet, having identified her as a Senshi, and when she gets near Rei, she can tell that she isn't normal. Makoto is the only one that was a victim of an attack before she first transformed.

Also, on a bit of a tangent, these are some of their "in the name of" lines in the manga:

Sailor Moon said:
And in the name of the Moon, I'll punish you!
Sailor Mercury said:
With the power of Mercury, I'll douse your head in water and make you repent!
Sailor Mars said:
With the power of Mars, I'll set you on fire!?
With my high heels, I'll punish you!
It's not often that the hero tells the villain that they are going to light them on fire, then stomp on them with what are basically somewhat blunt spikes.
 

Prince Charon

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#96
Rei's line could attract a certain type of person to her in large number, if you take away the fire part (and for some, even if it's left in).
 

Comartemis

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#98
ragnarok1337 said:
Burning Arisa would make a fine replacement for Rei.
Except Arisa is already replacing Uranus. Nobody's replacing any of the Inner Senshi besides Moon.

Given that she was created from a passing stray, would Linith be created from an already sentient cat if Fate was a reincarnated Serenity born on Earth?
There are exactly two sentient cats on Earth and neither of them are going to become Linith, no. Artemis is needed for Minako to become Sailor V and do her part of the backstory and Luna is needed for Nanoha to become Sailor Moon(?).
 

zeebee1

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Two female childhood friends that happen to be underage? They must be lesbians.
 
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