RE: The Naruversity
I figured Rain Tiger at Will was Water Release but simply without the prefix as sometimes happens (e.g. Blade of Wind, Hidden Mist, Body Pathway Derangement). Even so, as far as we know it was created using the Rinnegan's mastery of chakra but isn't of the Rinnegan which technically makes it something that can be learned like anyone else so it's not too outside the realms of possibility. And there is Sasuke's Kirin which manipulates the lightning in a thunderstorm and potentially creates the thunderstorm itself if you believe that he intended to use it against Team 7 as I do.
So manipulating the weather totally with a combination of the three elements most deeply related to it seemed logical to me. Natural energy would be the most ideal way of doing so but not the sole means with Sky Release being the closest to it.
Some kid called Yota apparently met the Rookie 9 when they were young and comes from a clan that earn money by manipulating the weather.
After thinking about it, it does feel like an odd route to that take. The Rinnegan grants potential mastery of all nature transformations but its Path only use a combination of three, and for some only one one kekkei tota out of all of them is tied to its power. The entry for Shinra Tensei apparently also mentions that "only one who can manipulate all chakra transformations properties" gets to have this gravity-manipulating power which makes it sounds a bit bigger than just a kekkei tota.
I was leery of even my own idea of a black hole which resembles Chibaku Tensei, though I guess the gravity power can be called a byproduct of the mass it creates rather than a direct manipulation, but this goes even further.
Moar light, yo. Lightning and fire are the elements that naturally create it and even some of its advanced elements are linked to it, literally and symbolically. Though I don't really think of kekkei tota in terms of the advanced elements since the one canon example doesn't quite work in those terms but works fine when based purely on its component elements.
My mind's gotten stuck on these five so I can't help but get things to fit into that pattern.
That was last discussed in the posts following this one.
Altered Nova said:
I'm not sure how I feel about weather control being a bloodline. It's a really cool idea, but I feel like any jutsu which directly manipulates the weather over a significantly large area would probably have to be a Sage Art, as it would need to control the flow of the planet's natural energy. I mean, the greatest and most comparable examples we've seen of weather manipulation in the manga were the Ten-tails and Kaguya, and both of them can control natural energy (Tenpenchii is explicitly described as "interfering with the natural energy"). Sure there was also Nagato's Rain Tiger at Will Technique, but that jutsu is weird in that it's not even elemental and Nagato also has the convenient justification of the Rinnegan which is capable of all sorts of bizarre, random jutsu.
So manipulating the weather totally with a combination of the three elements most deeply related to it seemed logical to me. Natural energy would be the most ideal way of doing so but not the sole means with Sky Release being the closest to it.
Wasn't there an anime filler character that could control the weather? I vaguely remember something like that.
By the way, what do you think of my retconning of the Deva Path actually being a form of Gravity Release? Is that a plausible idea?
I was leery of even my own idea of a black hole which resembles Chibaku Tensei, though I guess the gravity power can be called a byproduct of the mass it creates rather than a direct manipulation, but this goes even further.
Maybe. I personally feel Force Release being a combination of Storm and Ice Release makes more sense. I'm struggling to understand what exactly the Fire element is contributing to a bloodline that creates hard light constructs. If you really want to use Water + Wind + Lightning for a different bloodline though, and don't mind having more than the five combinations you've already proposed, then Earth would probably make more sense than Fire.
My mind's gotten stuck on these five so I can't help but get things to fit into that pattern.
Yorae Rasante said:
The discussion about Natural Energy on the Questions thread made me think... Maybe Mokuton, or at least Hashirama's (and Madara's), is called a Kekkei Genkai because of when it was first shown, but it is actually a Kekkei Tota?
I mean, we know of the Water+Earth part of it but, while it can be explained in a way it making plants grow and controls them, Mokuton as shown can actually create plant life from nothing.
Naruto makes Zetsus burst into trees when he touches them while covered in Kurama's Yang chakra.
I know it goes against what was first shown in the first databooks, but maybe Mokuton is actually Water+Earth+Yang.
I mean, we know of the Water+Earth part of it but, while it can be explained in a way it making plants grow and controls them, Mokuton as shown can actually create plant life from nothing.
Naruto makes Zetsus burst into trees when he touches them while covered in Kurama's Yang chakra.
I know it goes against what was first shown in the first databooks, but maybe Mokuton is actually Water+Earth+Yang.