Bleach Bleach questions thread

[wingthesword]

Isn't the "Seki Seki" stone that forms the barrier specifically what causes the no flying thing?

Also the shinigami mention Quincygetsu is outside the barrier so they're safe so the no flying thing doesn't apply outside the barrier.

Also isn't Ichigo's flying the result of that special cape he wears when he shows up to the execution? We see a cord with an emblem that he pulls when he takes it off so that emblem probably indicates it's a special item. I mean that bone wing thing didn't seem very special and then "Red Bull Bone gives you wings" happened.

 

[seitora]

Speaking of the Kido Corps I guess none of the present-day members have been shown yet?

Some of their mooks show up in the Soul Society arc. They're the ones who were supposed to be guarding the Central 46 and carrying our Rukia's execution, IIRC.

Nah, I don't care about the mooks, because they're mooks. If you're a nameless character you're no better than a redshirt, or a Stormtrooper, or what have you.

But it would be rather nice to have some Kido Corps head honcho who's on par with Tessai or Hachigen.

 

[Knyght]

Isn't the "Seki Seki" stone that forms the barrier specifically what causes the no flying thing?

The only thing we're told about the barrier is that it stops anything spiritual from breaching the city from any direction. We don't actually know whether it stops air-walking but it's the most likely theory, tbh.

Also the shinigami mention Quincygetsu is outside the barrier so they're safe so the no flying thing doesn't apply outside the barrier.

No, they think he's outside the barrier before realising he's inside. So it's still unconfirmed.

 

[Amodelsino]

Also isn't Ichigo's flying the result of that special cape he wears when he shows up to the execution? We see a cord with an emblem that he pulls when he takes it off so that emblem probably indicates it's a special item. I mean that bone wing thing didn't seem very special and then "Red Bull Bone gives you wings" happened.

Which has nothing to do with him standing still in the air while defeating Byakuya's attack, and after. Long after he discards the cape.

 

[wingthesword]

Does that mean the coat comes with flight abilities?

That might be the case actually. Didn't Kukaku say the barrier dispersed anything that touched so would the particles have needed to be condensed so the barrier wouldn't disperse them?

Ichigo's bankai condenses his power so maybe that allows him flight where otherwise it wouldn't be feasible?

 

[Knyght]

Also isn't Ichigo's flying the result of that special cape he wears when he shows up to the execution? We see a cord with an emblem that he pulls when he takes it off so that emblem probably indicates it's a special item. I mean that bone wing thing didn't seem very special and then "Red Bull Bone gives you wings" happened.

Which has nothing to do with him standing still in the air while defeating Byakuya's attack, and after. Long after he discards the cape.

Is he really standing still? They were moving at high speeds and to me it looks like Ichigo deflected all those petals before he'd started falling. Though that becomes a moot point when he immediately goes from several feet in the air to standing behind Bykauya in a casual pose. He should have dropped to the ground.

Ishida shows that it's not impossible to gather reishi within Seireitei, but it may require a degree of skill that the vast majority of Shinigami wouldn't possess. His bankai allowing him to air-walk makes sense to me since, as I understand it, it makes Ichigo's abilities better in every area. So even something like his ability to gather reishi could be increased when in bankai in theory.

 

[wingthesword]

Also isn't Ichigo's flying the result of that special cape he wears when he shows up to the execution? We see a cord with an emblem that he pulls when he takes it off so that emblem probably indicates it's a special item. I mean that bone wing thing didn't seem very special and then "Red Bull Bone gives you wings" happened.

Which has nothing to do with him standing still in the air while defeating Byakuya's attack, and after. Long after he discards the cape.

Is he really standing still? They were moving at high speeds and to me it looks like Ichigo deflected all those petals before he'd started falling. Though that becomes a moot point when he immediately goes from several feet in the air to standing behind Bykauya in a casual pose. He should have dropped to the ground.

Ishida shows that it's not impossible to gather reishi within Seireitei, but it may require a degree of skill that the vast majority of Shinigami wouldn't possess. His bankai allowing him to air-walk makes sense to me since, as I understand it, it makes Ichigo's abilities better in every area. So even something like his ability to gather reishi could be increased when in bankai in theory.

I also wanted to say this but, I had a feeling it would have been countered by the fact that he showed up behind Byakuya.

It might just be a matter of habit. I mean we don't see roof hopping going on during the search for the 'ryoka' even though it would have been quicker. Only Ichimaru does it to prevent a fight between Kenpachi and Byakuya, but then it's never really seen again except for Suifeng's[The new spelling is crazy] ninja. They probably avoid so wall aren't ivalidated?

 

[Knyght]

I could imagine that air-walking and roof-hopping are frowned upon within Seireitei on a day-to-day basis, especially since the only fighting that would occur would between division training mostly. But it seems ridiculous that no-one tries looking down from rooftops during an invasion. I suppose it could be put down to human nature like how people don't often look up but that seems weak, if not impossible.

Though I guess it doesn't matter too much. The characters who could have fought on par with the protags are the ones who wouldn't really need to search from above.

On a related note, there's a scene where Hitsugaya's fighting Hinamori where he says he can't dodge in mid-air.

 

[Knyght]

Something I just realised: There's a rule that the top four Espada aren't allowed to release within Las Noches because it could destroy the palace and even Grimmjow was able to distort space with his Gran Rey Cero (whilst unreleased). So how come Las Noches was completely unaffected when Yammy has such a huge increase in power and has the most reiatsu of the Espada?

Of course Ulquiorra was referring to himself and the three above him and Yammy's true power hadn't been revealed yet, but I don't really see a reason for why he wouldn't be a danger to their environment.

 

[~NGD OMEGA~]

Yammi's weird and frankly I ignore the zero tripe. Makes considerably more sense that way to say the least. I suppose if you want to logic it, you could go the whole "It's only a danger if the power is compressed into a human sized body" route, which certainly helps explain why Kenpachi could carve him up so easily. :mellow:

 

[Knyght]

Ah, yeah that'd work well enough for me. :sisi:

 

[seitora]

Would Soifon's Shikai technique work on the Quincy defense thing? I was thinking about that.

 

[Knyght]

It shouldn't work on the defence tech itself; Soifon has to be strong enough to pierce through that defence. IIRC, Suzemachi has to actually wound the opponent for it to work IIRC, so if she can't get past the armour then it's ability won't activate. If she does that, barring reiatsu requirements, it should work fine.

Stat-wise she's got 100 for physical strength so it shouldn't be impossible and she has shunko on top of that.

EDIT: Though I suppose it might be possible for her to neutralise the defence tech by 'killing' it with Nigeki Kessatsu. It'd depend on what limits her killing ability has and how far you can stretch its meaning.

 

[BukkakeNoJutsu]

How old was Ichigo when his mother died?

 

[Knyght]

Nine.

 

[BukkakeNoJutsu]

Nine.

Thanks! That helps a lot for the story thread stuck in mah head.

 

[zeebee1]

Less thinking and more writing is the way to go.

 

[seitora]

Less thinking and more writing is the way to go.

oh I get it zb's an armchair critic

 

[zeebee1]

My chair doesn't have arms. It lost them in the war.

 

[Knyght]

My condolences.

 

[zeebee1]

Condolences don't pay the carpentry bills.

 

[seitora]

Unless it's Orihime's condolences.

 

[Knyght]

Just saw the tvtropes for the latest arc and it mentions that over 2500/3000 shinigami have been killed at this point. Has it ever been mentioned how many shinigami there are?

 

[DarkDragons]

Just saw the tvtropes for the latest arc and it mentions that over 2500/3000 shinigami have been killed at this point. Has it ever been mentioned how many shinigami there are?

Found this tidbit on the Bleach Wiki, now according to the 1st Bleach Databook

Each Division is made up of just over 200 Shinigami, with the Gotei 13's standing force being just around 3000 total enlisted troops.

In other words, they were completely annihilated, in less than an hour in-universe I assume.

 

[~NGD OMEGA~]

And the worst part is that little shithead with the white dots in his hair is still alive.