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Straight Tomoe and Curved Tomoe (Knyght)

Knyght

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Straight Tomoe and Curved Tomoe (Official Version)

The Mangekyou Sharingan has a little known quirk in that it can be categorised into two categories: Straight Tomoe and Curved Tomoe. Every Uchiha with an awakened Sharingan leans towards one half more than the other: the Eye of Hypnotism and the Eye of Insight. This difference becomes even more prominent with the heightened abilities that stem from awakening the Mangekyou.

A Straight Tomoe signifies an emphasis on the Eye of Insight, making the movements far more fluid in battle as they see exactly what they need to do to counterr their enemy. And a Curved Tomoe signifies an emphasis on the Eye of Hypnotism, granting them greater control over an enemy's mind and senses. Sasuke is an example of the former and Itachi is an example of latter.
 
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Flying Thunder God: Guiding Thunder/Flying Thunder Formation (Knyght)

Knyght

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Flying Thunder God: Guiding Thunder (Official Version)

This is a space-time barrier jutsu based on the Flying Thunder God Jutsu. Using one of his tagged kunai, Minato opens a tear in space-time which instantaneously sucks in an incoming attack and transfers it to another location marked with the jutsu-formula.

Minato can create the tear anywhere within his immediate vicinity and its size can vary to accommodate the size of the attack used against him or others The jutsu is especially dangerous when he chooses to transport it to a person that he has tagged instead of a kunai, meaning that the target has no way of expecting the attack or defending themselves.

Flying Thunder Formation (Official Version)

This is an alternate version of the Flying Thunder God Jutsu meant to enable lesser shinobi, ones unable to learn the S-rank ninjutsu themselves, to accomplish the same effect. It requires three casters who made a circle and each perform the seal of confrontation to link them together. They then break down the complex chakra transformation required to traverse space-time into three parts with each member handling one part in unison with the other, like how Naruto would use a pair of clones to create the Wind Release: Rasen Shuriken. Doing so allows them to transport themselves and/or anything inside the inside the confines of the ring to a marked destination.

Minato invented the jutsu and taught it to the Hokage Guard Platoon, a team of three special jounin that he put together. Their purpose is to come to his aid in an emergency (possibly with other allies when needed) or protect an important target designated by the Fourth by transporting them away with the danger zone.
 
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Altered Nova

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You know, as much as the other villages were terrified of Minato for his battle prowess, I'm starting to suspect that they may have feared him far more because of the sheer ease with which he can capture and/or permanently and irreversibly compromise any ninja.

Think about it. All Minato has to do is touch you once (or even just get really close to you with that Guiding Thunder jutsu) and he can instantly send you to a fortified dungeon deep under Konoha filled with ANBU interrogators, and you will likely never see the light of day again. Even if he never lays another hand on you again for the rest of your life... you are now dead to your village. Now that you've been marked, Minato can potentially kidnap you or teleport to your location at any instant. Which means you can never be allowed inside the village or any other sensitive location again, or near any other high ranking shinobi/noble/politician/client from your homeland, or trusted to know any classified information, or to protect anything or anyone even slightly important. So for security reasons you unfortunately must be banished from your village and your career as a ninja is over. And you will wake up every morning wondering if today is the day Minato finally takes you and none of your friends or loved ones ever see you again.

Holy fuck. If I was a Iwa Chuunin I think I'd rather fight an unsealed rampaging Kyuubi solo than fight Minato. At least the Kyuubi will kill you quickly.
 

Knyght

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The real reason A forced B to live in a mountain range for the rest of his days. :(

Though I always wanted to know what happened to that mark since Minato applied it to his tentacle rather than his body.
 
Healing Resuscitation Regeneration Jutsu/Fuuinjutsu in Medicine (Knyght)

Knyght

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Healing Resuscitation Regeneration Jutsu

This is a cooperation medical ninjutsu which uses a portion of the injured individual's body to act as a medium and have its cells converted into new cells to regenerate the missing section of the body. The level of precision required to control the high quantity of chakra to match the proportion of cells means that it cannot be performed single-handedly and takes a long time. It uses a sealing formula because it is very difficult for more than one medical ninja to operate on a single patient with medical ninjutsu as the different chakras disrupt one another, so the medic-nin instead channel their chakra through the formula to keep it under control and guide the chakra to the affected area without flowing out of order. When a medic has exhausted themselves (mentally and/or physically), they are replaced when a fresh reserve waiting on the sidelines. It takes hours for the cells in the medium to be prepared but the transformation itself is rapid, only that makes it more difficult to ensure the regeneration is perfect.

It's a high-risk jutsu where, if it fails, the body will violently reject the new cells and potentially cause death which is why it is rarely used outside of healing already life-threatening injuries. The greater the wound, the more chakra and time is needed and the more likely it is that the jutsu will fail.

Fuuinjutsu in Medicine

It surprises most people to discover that medical ninjutsu and fuuinjutsu are often used together in hospital to aid patients. Fuuinjutsu's ability to restrain, block and seal has been adapted in many ways for medicinal puprposes.

It can be used to aid delicate surgical procedures by precisely flowing chakra into a patient's wound such as with the Healing Resuscitation Regeneration Jutsu. Medical chakra can be stored within tags or strips and bound to the patient to accelerate healing without the direct involvement of a medic-nin; their doctor or nurse will have another seal tied to it which allow them to monitor its effect and turn it on or off as necessary. It is especially useful for sterilized as they can maintain barriers that ward of harmful substances and infection to keep the patient in an ideal environment. Fuuinjutsu can even be used to directly regulate an individual's inner equilibrium to keep their condition as stable as possible when their body is in a dire state.
 
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Altered Nova

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knight504 said:
The real reason A forced B to live in a mountain range for the rest of his days. :(

Though I always wanted to know what happened to that mark since Minato applied it to his tentacle rather than his body.
My guess is that the mark was technically applied to Gyuuki, not to Killer B. So the mark can only be targeted with Hiraishin when Bee manifests that particular tentacle (which he would just try to avoid doing again) or he fully unleashes the Hachibi (at which point good luck trying to do anything to him even with Hiraishin).

Or maybe the mark is gone because the tentacle was severed and regrown at some point? Would amputating a Hiraishin marked limb remove the effect of the jutsu from your body?
 

Knyght

The Collector
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Altered Nova said:
Would amputating a Hiraishin marked limb remove the effect of the jutsu from your body?
I should think so. I'd think that it's the mark itself that's important, not whatever has been marked. If the marked limb is removed and thrown away then Minato would appear wherever the limb is.
 

Altered Nova

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I'm just wondering because they made a pretty big deal about the mark being unremovable. I mean, Obito can replace his body parts with donor flesh from Zetsu bodies, but he never removed Minato's mark.

Also, exactly how deep does the Hiraishin mark, or fuuinjutsu in general, go? Could you remove it by slicing off the skin it was inscribed on? The top inch of muscle under the skin? Or do you have to remove the entire limb to remove the mark?
 

Knyght

The Collector
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Did he ever even see the mark himself? It was on the centre of his back after all. And that's assuming Minato didn't move it around to make it appear somewhere else (like that one on the Iwa jounin's foot) so it would have looked like it was gone.

The way it was brought up, it didn't seem like Obito even knew it was still there.
 
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Obito didn't remove the mark because Minato was dead.


Also, we know seals can be modified and\or sealed: I guess every component of a platoon who fought Minato went under a full-body check to make sure they were marked, and those who were marked simply got it sealed away before going back to important places
 

Altered Nova

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Those answers are great and all, but they are kind of unrelated to the main question of my last post, which was about how hard it is to surgically remove a fuuinjutsu (if it's even possible). Can you remove a cursed seal by cutting away the skin it's tattooed upon? Do you need to dig deeper into the flesh underneath the seal? Perhaps severing any connections between the cursed seal and the chakra circulatory system is required?
 

Banach87

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Altered Nova said:
Those answers are great and all, but they are kind of unrelated to the main question of my last post, which was about how hard it is to surgically remove a fuuinjutsu (if it's even possible). Can you remove a cursed seal by cutting away the skin it's tattooed upon? Do you need to dig deeper into the flesh underneath the seal? Perhaps severing any connections between the cursed seal and the chakra circulatory system is required?
My guess is it depends. For instance Sasuke's storage seals that he used in his battle with Itachi, which were painted on his wrists, would presumably be easy to 'erase' by removing that piece of skin. On the other hand more intricate ones like the cursed seal would not be as simple since they connect to the body's chakra network. But then again, what would be the purpose of Madara's seal being placed in the victim's hearts? Does it grant the seal more power or something?
 

Knyght

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They were on his wristbands actually, not his wrists. The heart's the most important organ in their body, chakra-wise, so I guess that's a factor and it makes it impossible to removing without killing yourself I guess.

Those answers are great and all, but they are kind of unrelated to the main question of my last post
Well I was trying to dodge the question...

I'd go with that last one. Plus amputating the limb if the seal's attached to one of them.
 
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It might depend on what the seal is sealing, with seals being in part metaphysical.
 

Knyght

The Collector
RE: The Naruversity

By the by, I've been working on Naruversity: The Website for the past week.

Blogging's been recommended to me a few times and I thought it'd be cool to publicize a lot of these theories for general viewing. Not just theories either; observations and discoveries (Rereading the Manga), changes to the manga, (Canon Tweaks), original and canon jutsu (Jutsu Creation) and stuff from more subject-specific threads.

So there won't really be any new stuff for a TFFer but I thought I'd spread the word since I'll hopefully be publishing posts and making it fully public today.

Edit: The Naruversity is now open.
 

nixofcyzerra

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Are you planning to post stuff written by others in the Naruversity thread?
 

Knyght

The Collector
RE: The Naruversity

Just my own stuff, unless someone offers or I ask for it first.
 
Shinobi Village Ranks (Genin/Special Chuunin) (Knyght)

Altered Nova

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Here's part of a post I've been working on for a while about ninja ranks. My intention is to make them more realistic by including concepts such as security clearances and economic impacts of the different ranks upon the villages. So far i've only written up two ranks but I'm having a bit of writer's block so I'll just post what I've got so far for critique.

And yes I did invent a new rank, because somebody needs to do the non-combat grunt work that low ranking genin don't have the security clearance for and it would be stupid to demand that every ninja secretary and lab technician also be a badass who is qualified to lead a team of soldiers in the field.

Shinobi Village Ranks

Genin is the lowest level of ninja, and the first rank given to those who graduate from the ninja academy. Genin are not yet competent or experienced enough to lead missions outside the village, and are usually only allowed to command risk-free D-rank missions which involve performing manual labor and other simple tasks - such as painting a house or finding a lost pet. They may also participate in low-risk C-rank missions under the supervision of a higher ranked ninja which can involve mild danger or traveling outside of the village - such bodyguard duty to civilians or hunting wild animals.

Most villages place their freshly-graduated Genin in four-man cells, consisting of three genin and a special jounin or jounin-sensei, in order to learn teamwork, improve their skills, and experience true ninja life under the supervision and protection of an elite shinobi, all while becoming accustomed to dealing with clients and handling paperwork. This probationary period usually lasts for a few years, after which the sensei will take a new genin team or return to full active duty, and their former students must become fully responsible for their own training and advancement.

While the large majority of ninja registered in each village are genin, only a small number of those genin are actively take missions at any given time. The majority of genin are placed in a reserve force which pays them a modest salary to maintain their combat readiness and may call them back into active duty if their village becomes involved in a large scale conflict, but who otherwise live as normal civilians. The reason for this is that most ninja villages are partially or fully privatized organizations that need to pay for their own budgets, and genin are not profitable; they can only take D-rank missions, which are usually subsidized by the village because few civilians can afford to hire ninja to perform their household chores. Maintaining a large standing force of active duty genin would be a huge financial drain on a village.

As a result, there is tremendous cultural and social pressure on new genin to get promoted as quickly as possible, and on older genin to retire and stop wasting D-rank missions that could be given to younger and more promising ninja. Genin who fail to be promoted or to retire by their mid-twenties or later are generally looked down upon by their peers, although the severity depends upon their perceived honesty. Those who regularly attend chuunin exams and take only enough D-ranks necessary to support themselves may be labeled "Eternal Genin", a slur targeted at genin who are believed to be too incompetent to earn a promotion, too stupid to realize this (otherwise they would retire), but too lucky to get killed in an exam. Those who skip too many chuunin exams or are perceived to be taking too many D-rank missions, on the other hand, run the risk of being labeled a "Career Genin" - that is, a coward who intentionally sabotages their own promotion chances in order to earn an easy paycheck while being exposed to a minimum of danger. Unsurprisingly, that charge tends to be devastating to one's reputation and future career prospects if it sticks.

Special Chuunin is an rank given to ninja who are not qualified to become Chuunin but who perform sensitive jobs for the village which requires a Chuunin level security clearance. Special Chuunin are the backbone of any village and perform a wide variety of necessary but unglamorous jobs, including but not limited to; computer technician, paralegal, administrative clerk, medical nurse, logistics management, accounting.

Special Chuunin is considered an alternative promotion path to Chuunin. Many ninja commonly skip this rank entirely via a Chuunin Exam, and as Special Chuunin typically earn a steady paycheck performing non-combat jobs within the village, they usually stop taking field missions and thus have little opportunity for further advancement.
 

nixofcyzerra

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knight504 said:
Just my own stuff, unless someone offers or I ask for it first.
I don't mind you posting any of the stuff I came up with, but I'd appreciate it if you could credit me as the original author if you do.

Altered Nova said:
Shinobi Village Ranks
This could also neatly explain why Naruto stayed at Genin rank. He's a combat type. He doesn't really need the security clearance that comes with Special Chuunin.
 
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Knight, feel free to use any of my stuff

On Shinobi ranks:
In modern (post Ninja World War III) most shinobi are promoted to Chunin by appointment, after their Kage(or equivalent) reviews their curriculum following their Jonin's proposal. Usually, this is purely a bureaucratic procedure.
Modern cross-village Chunin Exams are the PRESTIGIOUS way to get promoted to Chunin: the same way they substitute for war, their promotions also substitute for field promotions.
Actual field promotions are quite rare as what would be usually considered something worth a promotion would "simply" causes their Jonin to propose for regular promotion somehow earlier than expected.
Nothing less than a C-Rank turned unexpectedly A-rank with the Genin forced to take field command would merit, in modern times, a honest-to-Sage field promotion.
 

Knyght

The Collector
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Good stuff, Altered. One thing I have been wondering about genin is, if they don't get promoted, at what point does their jounin-sensei stop being their sensei? This 23-year old genin used to be Asuma's student for instance.

nixofcyzerra said:
I don't mind you posting any of the stuff I came up with, but I'd appreciate it if you could credit me as the original author if you do.
ankokudaishogun said:
Knight, feel free to use any of my stuff
Cheers, fellas.
 

Altered Nova

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nixofcyzerra said:
This could also neatly explain why Naruto stayed at Genin rank. He's a combat type. He doesn't really need the security clearance that comes with Special Chuunin.
You know I was honestly expecting more resistance to the idea of a Special Chuunin rank, since I really am kind of pulling it out of my ass with no canon support. I do feel it makes a lot more sense to have it though, since a genin is typically too green to trust with classified information, but it would be a waste of manpower to have the ninja-equivalent of Lieutenants and Captains scrubbing the floors of the ANBU interrogation chambers or removing malware from the mission assignment desk computers. Plus I think it mirrors the official Special Jounin rank nicely, which in my theory are basically chuunin-level ninja with jounin-level security clearance.

ankokudaishogun said:
On Shinobi ranks:
In modern (post Ninja World War III) most shinobi are promoted to Chunin by appointment, after their Kage(or equivalent) reviews their curriculum following their Jonin's proposal. Usually, this is purely a bureaucratic procedure.
Modern cross-village Chunin Exams are the PRESTIGIOUS way to get promoted to Chunin: the same way they substitute for war, their promotions also substitute for field promotions.
Actual field promotions are quite rare as what would be usually considered something worth a promotion would "simply" causes their Jonin to propose for regular promotion somehow earlier than expected.
Nothing less than a C-Rank turned unexpectedly A-rank with the Genin forced to take field command would merit, in modern times, a honest-to-Sage field promotion.
Hmmm. So you are saying that most Chuunin in recent times did not gain the rank through a Chuunin Exam, but rather through direct appointment by their kage? Are you sure about that? Cause the manga sure makes it seem like exams are the regular, expected way to earn a promotion. They are held twice a year and involve hundreds of participants, and even Obito's generation still took exams to get promoted despite the fact that they were literally involved in a world war at the time (although their exams were Konoha-only affairs). It's not like the exams are some niche event that only the most elite genin take part in.

knight504 said:
One thing I have been wondering about genin is, if they don't get promoted, at what point does their jounin-sensei stop being their sensei? This 23-year old genin used to be Asuma's student for instance.
A Jounin-sensei is probably required to keep his genin students for at least two years, since Kakashi entering his team in the exam after only one year was considered unusual. My guess, the Jounin is required to stay with their team for at least three years, and after that the village feels they've done their duty and it's left to the Jounin's own discretion whether they keep on and for how much longer.
 

nixofcyzerra

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Well, we know practically nothing about the rank-and-file "background" Shinobi, and iirc, Kakashi didn't mention Tokubetsu Jonin in his explanation of Shinobi grades in one of the first volumes.
 
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