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<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6437783/1/Harry_Dresden_Agent_of_NERV' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Harry Dresden: Agent of NERV</a>
When Gentleman Johnny Marcone, head of NERV-Chicago, is mysteriously reduced to tang, the White Council realizes that something screwy is going on with NERV and their war against the Outsiders designated the Angels. They send Warden Dresden to investigate.
<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6437783/1/Harry_Dresden_Agent_of_NERV' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Harry Dresden: Agent of NERV</a>
When Gentleman Johnny Marcone, head of NERV-Chicago, is mysteriously reduced to tang, the White Council realizes that something screwy is going on with NERV and their war against the Outsiders designated the Angels. They send Warden Dresden to investigate.
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I'm not sure this was mentioned yet, but I recommend <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6842762/1/New_Destiny_Evangelion' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>New Destiny Evangelion.</a>. Basically, Kaworu has stayed with Shinji as a friend during his childhood, being a Kamina to Shinji's Simon. Kaworu is just full of crazy awesome, and the fic has barely even begun.
Plus, in the first chapter we get ADAM yelling Who the hell do you think I am?! Yeah, he's also sort of Crazy Awesome. I'm waiting for Kaworu to give the whole "believe in me who believes in you!" line.
Note: despite this it is NOT a crossover with Gurren Lagaan.
I'm not sure this was mentioned yet, but I recommend <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6842762/1/New_Destiny_Evangelion' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>New Destiny Evangelion.</a>. Basically, Kaworu has stayed with Shinji as a friend during his childhood, being a Kamina to Shinji's Simon. Kaworu is just full of crazy awesome, and the fic has barely even begun.
Plus, in the first chapter we get ADAM yelling Who the hell do you think I am?! Yeah, he's also sort of Crazy Awesome. I'm waiting for Kaworu to give the whole "believe in me who believes in you!" line.
Note: despite this it is NOT a crossover with Gurren Lagaan.
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It seems to me that ragnarok has a much lower bar for what qualifies as "something I would recommend for sharing". Either that or he doesn't care that he looks like an uneducated rube when recommending something that fails to qualify as adequate writing on this forum. So far all of the recommendations from him I've seen are boring formulaic writing that is crammed so full of cliches that I can predict the next chapter's plot point. Ragnarok, go to the TFF C2 on FF.net, read some of the stuff there, then compare it to what you've deemed worthy of sharing. I'm pretty sure you'll notice the large disparity in quality shortly. If not, go to your local library and check out any of the fiction works there. The quality of fanfiction that gets recommended around here are usually publishable with some professional editing if it weren't for the content and the fact it's fanfiction. Heck I find some of the recommendations in the comics section better that some of the stuff that's being printed out by Marvel and DC.
It seems to me that ragnarok has a much lower bar for what qualifies as "something I would recommend for sharing". Either that or he doesn't care that he looks like an uneducated rube when recommending something that fails to qualify as adequate writing on this forum. So far all of the recommendations from him I've seen are boring formulaic writing that is crammed so full of cliches that I can predict the next chapter's plot point. Ragnarok, go to the TFF C2 on FF.net, read some of the stuff there, then compare it to what you've deemed worthy of sharing. I'm pretty sure you'll notice the large disparity in quality shortly. If not, go to your local library and check out any of the fiction works there. The quality of fanfiction that gets recommended around here are usually publishable with some professional editing if it weren't for the content and the fact it's fanfiction. Heck I find some of the recommendations in the comics section better that some of the stuff that's being printed out by Marvel and DC.
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Wow. Exceedingly negative, anyone? I have been to many of the recommendations threads, and most of the rec'd fics aren't very far above that one in quality. And saying that most of the fanfiction is publishable in quality? Your standards must be as low as Twilight. Maybe as high as Harry Potter.
Maybe It's because I try to find something different that usual, what with the majority of fanfiction being rehashes of canon with slight details altered.
By the way, what's your definition of "adequate writing?" Maybe it's a serious fic with lots of drama and intrigue? Most of the time when I sit down to read Fanfiction I'm not looking for an in-depth novel, I'm just looking for something that will keep my interest for a bit. If I find a long, expertly written, in-depth fic, then sure, I'll read it. But most of those are also riddled with cliches, and get rather boring with all the predictable DRAMA and ANGST.
Wow. Exceedingly negative, anyone? I have been to many of the recommendations threads, and most of the rec'd fics aren't very far above that one in quality. And saying that most of the fanfiction is publishable in quality? Your standards must be as low as Twilight. Maybe as high as Harry Potter.
Maybe It's because I try to find something different that usual, what with the majority of fanfiction being rehashes of canon with slight details altered.
By the way, what's your definition of "adequate writing?" Maybe it's a serious fic with lots of drama and intrigue? Most of the time when I sit down to read Fanfiction I'm not looking for an in-depth novel, I'm just looking for something that will keep my interest for a bit. If I find a long, expertly written, in-depth fic, then sure, I'll read it. But most of those are also riddled with cliches, and get rather boring with all the predictable DRAMA and ANGST.
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Dear Sir,
After such a strongly worded statement as that I felt that I had to read the entire story before giving a comment either way. Having gone through the story, I'm afraid I have to agree with the majority on how the entire fanfic is an exercise in being different for the sake of being different and just plain awful writing.
It is true, with all other things held equal, that new premises and plots veering sharply away from the original are better to read than boring rehashing of the original plot However bad execution aside, please recall if you will that this is a fanfic and subject to somewhat different rules.
People read fanfics because they like something of the universe, characters and stories from the original universe.
Fanfics thus use to a varying extent the material from the original universe in order to tell a story. It can take as much content as just changing a single character or event in the original universe and weaving a tale of the consequences. It can take as little content as taking a single character out of the universe and throwing him into an original creation.
The more material taken the easier to start though it can be trickier to execute given that you have to play within the universe and subtly change things to be interesting. This is especially true in universes such as the Nasu-verse with complicated backdrops. And where staying in universe is sometimes harder than modifying the mechanics.
The less material taken the harder to write and create because less things are defined. At the same time, while you do not have to care so much of the constraints of the universe, the better the story you have to write to get the interest of your readers, because at the extreme end, you are more or less writing an original story.
I will not bore you with the caveats or on how cross-overs work. We can spend the entire day talking about that. Even the things that I have laid out are somewhat of an oversimplification. However I will leave you with a rule of thumb. If, at the beginning of the fanfic, I rename any of the material taken from the original universe and you are unable to tell that it is from the original universe at all, then you have a big big problem.
The entire story that you have recommended falls into that category. And I have not even started on the poor writing yet. Suffice it to say, it is simply not worth any more of my time to critique the story further. It would simply end up as a MST.
I hope that this short reply is sufficient to explain our thoughts in greater detail on why your recommendations in general are less than appreciated.
Best Regards
Your Resident Insane One.
P.S. The story was really that bad.
P.P.S If you make me read another story that shocks me back into sanity I will have your spleen for breakfast.
Dear Sir,
After such a strongly worded statement as that I felt that I had to read the entire story before giving a comment either way. Having gone through the story, I'm afraid I have to agree with the majority on how the entire fanfic is an exercise in being different for the sake of being different and just plain awful writing.
It is true, with all other things held equal, that new premises and plots veering sharply away from the original are better to read than boring rehashing of the original plot However bad execution aside, please recall if you will that this is a fanfic and subject to somewhat different rules.
People read fanfics because they like something of the universe, characters and stories from the original universe.
Fanfics thus use to a varying extent the material from the original universe in order to tell a story. It can take as much content as just changing a single character or event in the original universe and weaving a tale of the consequences. It can take as little content as taking a single character out of the universe and throwing him into an original creation.
The more material taken the easier to start though it can be trickier to execute given that you have to play within the universe and subtly change things to be interesting. This is especially true in universes such as the Nasu-verse with complicated backdrops. And where staying in universe is sometimes harder than modifying the mechanics.
The less material taken the harder to write and create because less things are defined. At the same time, while you do not have to care so much of the constraints of the universe, the better the story you have to write to get the interest of your readers, because at the extreme end, you are more or less writing an original story.
I will not bore you with the caveats or on how cross-overs work. We can spend the entire day talking about that. Even the things that I have laid out are somewhat of an oversimplification. However I will leave you with a rule of thumb. If, at the beginning of the fanfic, I rename any of the material taken from the original universe and you are unable to tell that it is from the original universe at all, then you have a big big problem.
The entire story that you have recommended falls into that category. And I have not even started on the poor writing yet. Suffice it to say, it is simply not worth any more of my time to critique the story further. It would simply end up as a MST.
I hope that this short reply is sufficient to explain our thoughts in greater detail on why your recommendations in general are less than appreciated.
Best Regards
Your Resident Insane One.
P.S. The story was really that bad.
P.P.S If you make me read another story that shocks me back into sanity I will have your spleen for breakfast.
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What Elvarein said.
Let me see what your "reccomendation" consisted of.
A Link and a comment of "Its good. You people should read it." Or something to that effect.
Hmm so a random link.
To a story that you gave no hint to what it is about or whats the change or even who the main character is. In other words, you threw up a random fic and then expected us to fall down in wonder at it.
No. Fuck you.
Here's a better example.
Remember when your parents would give you something new to eat? You'd ask what it is and they wouldnt tell you? Only saying "Try it, you'll like it." Only for you to try it and it turns out your parents LIED. Yeah that's kind of what you did.
What Elvarein said.
Let me see what your "reccomendation" consisted of.
A Link and a comment of "Its good. You people should read it." Or something to that effect.
Hmm so a random link.
To a story that you gave no hint to what it is about or whats the change or even who the main character is. In other words, you threw up a random fic and then expected us to fall down in wonder at it.
No. Fuck you.
Here's a better example.
Remember when your parents would give you something new to eat? You'd ask what it is and they wouldnt tell you? Only saying "Try it, you'll like it." Only for you to try it and it turns out your parents LIED. Yeah that's kind of what you did.
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Unless of course they thought you really WOULD like it. In which case your analogy fizzles out. As to Elvarein's comment...do you have any idea HOW many recommendations on this very board could fall under your definition of what makes an original story.
Note: I am NOT saying that you should like this fic. If you don't like it, fine by me. I only recommend something if I think others will enjoy it. I guess none of you did. Fair enough. I did NOT want to make you "fall down in wonder" as Merscenary said. How arrogant of him.
I am just pointing out the holes in your arguments. Honestly, I've seen fics FAR worse than this in other recommendations threads, and almost none of them have gotten this negative of a response in as short a time.
As to your argument of just putting up a link...I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue with this. Have you even READ the other fic recommendations thread? For every 5 fics recced, there must be 1 without a description. And yet none of them have gotten as many negative replies as this. Even when the fic in question is bad.
And yes, Elvarein, I know what an "in name only" fic is. Can you honestly say that you have never read or enjoyed one? Do you think none of the people bashing me pointlessly have either? And I still don't think this is an in-name-only fic. Maybe a bit, but not to the extreme you put it.
In short, you're taking this WAY overboard.
Unless of course they thought you really WOULD like it. In which case your analogy fizzles out. As to Elvarein's comment...do you have any idea HOW many recommendations on this very board could fall under your definition of what makes an original story.
Note: I am NOT saying that you should like this fic. If you don't like it, fine by me. I only recommend something if I think others will enjoy it. I guess none of you did. Fair enough. I did NOT want to make you "fall down in wonder" as Merscenary said. How arrogant of him.
I am just pointing out the holes in your arguments. Honestly, I've seen fics FAR worse than this in other recommendations threads, and almost none of them have gotten this negative of a response in as short a time.
As to your argument of just putting up a link...I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue with this. Have you even READ the other fic recommendations thread? For every 5 fics recced, there must be 1 without a description. And yet none of them have gotten as many negative replies as this. Even when the fic in question is bad.
And yes, Elvarein, I know what an "in name only" fic is. Can you honestly say that you have never read or enjoyed one? Do you think none of the people bashing me pointlessly have either? And I still don't think this is an in-name-only fic. Maybe a bit, but not to the extreme you put it.
In short, you're taking this WAY overboard.
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No no, this is the internet. No such thing as overboard.
And arrogance? Arrogance would be forever assuming that no matter what you would recommend from now on, it would be shit. That would be arrogance.
What I used in my previous post was hyperbole. You know, exaggeration. Taking something to the extreme even though it obviously wasn't.
Because you did want us to like it. Otherwise, why would you even bother bringing it up.
And of course there would be fics that would be way worse. But I very much doubt it was as much of a mine laden trap as yours. What with the no warning and such. But hey, Im just an arrogant bastard so what do I know?
P.S. You had an all of 4 posts of negative comments. That's hardly a very negative reaction. Harden the Fuck up.
No no, this is the internet. No such thing as overboard.
And arrogance? Arrogance would be forever assuming that no matter what you would recommend from now on, it would be shit. That would be arrogance.
What I used in my previous post was hyperbole. You know, exaggeration. Taking something to the extreme even though it obviously wasn't.
Because you did want us to like it. Otherwise, why would you even bother bringing it up.
And of course there would be fics that would be way worse. But I very much doubt it was as much of a mine laden trap as yours. What with the no warning and such. But hey, Im just an arrogant bastard so what do I know?
P.S. You had an all of 4 posts of negative comments. That's hardly a very negative reaction. Harden the Fuck up.